David Niederauer 
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
 | | 04-10-2003 05:18 PM |
| ZD Abacus. These people are very PROUD (read $$$$) of this stuff. Just wondering if anyone have every had any. ZD ABACUS | | |
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JonesWineNo1
Sommelier
Posts: 8568
| | 04-10-2003 05:21 PM |
| I consider this a gimmick wine born of the boom. I had the first incarnation and thought it was a nice insanely overpriced wine. For the most part, it has been a failure in the secondary market. Not worth purchasing imo. | | | |
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shaferguy91
Germantown TN
Wine Addict
Posts: 6958
| | 04-10-2003 08:10 PM |
| Pretty good for $40. Too bad Shafergirl paid about $200. I gave it an 88. | | | |
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GATC
Wine Lover
Posts: 4741
| | 04-10-2003 10:23 PM |
| Gimmick? That was the first word that came to my mind even before reading the post. I was afraid of using it, but you beat me to it anyway. | | | |
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JonesWineNo1
Sommelier
Posts: 8568
| | 04-10-2003 10:28 PM |
| Hope Del Dotto doesn't read this post... | | | |
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts: 12771
| | 04-10-2003 10:39 PM |
| Wufa...Jones. | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
| | 04-10-2003 10:41 PM |
| Jones,
LOL | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
| | 04-10-2003 10:42 PM |
| Other gimmicks?
Fume Blanc | | | |
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts: 12771
| | 04-10-2003 10:47 PM |
| I kinda like Chateau St. Jean Fume La Petite Etoile Vineyard Russian River | | | |
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts: 9624
| | 04-10-2003 11:37 PM |
| LCC, RE: Fume - nothing wrong with the wine, just the name that is a gimmick. | | | 2008: the end of an error | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 667
| | 04-11-2003 03:28 AM |
| Had the most recent Abacus, whatever the multiple vintages were, and it was just wonderful. Big and luscious and memorable. Knocked every other wine off the table, and it was a crowded table. It was a gift from the winemaker so we didn't pay the $250 or whatever it is. Wouldn't pay that for it, but I wouldn't pay that for any wine. | | | |
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georgia groff
Grape Stomper
Posts: 104
| | 04-11-2003 06:00 AM |
| ...it was great wasn't it QOH. All of us at the table that night loved it. | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13801
| | 04-11-2003 01:08 PM |
| LCC-- I have had that wine before, too and enjoyed it. It was a good white to serve to our not so wine-o friends and family and they really enjoy it as well.
But I agree on the whole 'fume blanc' name thing -- total gimmick | | | www.roguefood.com -- www.cellartracker.com | |
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TBird
Park Slope, Brooklyn
Master of Wine
Posts: 10205
| | 04-19-2007 04:36 PM |
| someone i know just paid a $hitload for a few of these. i can never look at him the same again... | | | |
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Fred
Wine Thief
Posts: 2673
| | 04-20-2007 04:47 PM |
| I tried some at the McAuthur's barrel tasting a while back. Not that it was a bad wine it was just that the ZD people were treating it like it was the second coming which it really wasn't. I remember the Neal single vineyards being just as good that year.
| | | "It's better to have your enemies inside the tent pissing out, then outside the tent pissing in." -- Lyndon Johnson | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
| | 04-22-2007 07:18 PM |
| I agree that the wine is really good. The MV thing is not a bad idea. But the high price tag for this particular is hard to swallow. How much would one get if one wanted to flip a bottle? | | | |
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